tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post114628612125473464..comments2024-01-31T07:49:02.712-06:00Comments on n i c e h e a r t: Disgusting table etiquette?nicehearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17561756178735116185noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1147399479259987142006-05-11T21:04:00.000-05:002006-05-11T21:04:00.000-05:00I myself didn't get the same job I had back home. ...I myself didn't get the same job I had back home. I’ve experienced doing manual labour and earning minimum wage. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. And even with that, I was earning a lot more than I did in the Philippines. But since then, I’ve found a better job, one that's just fine with me and I have learned to enjoy it. My family is here with me and we are doing just fine. I couldn't ask for anything more. Perhaps, I have a better experience than you did. I could just wish you the best in your future endeavours.nicehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561756178735116185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1147277858063000372006-05-10T11:17:00.000-05:002006-05-10T11:17:00.000-05:00nicehart , youre right , not everyone can get the ...nicehart , youre right , not everyone can get the same jobs that they have before. But you see , they are in the majority . <BR/><BR/><BR/>You are probably one of the lucky ones .The CIC websites dont give the right picture especiallly with regards to skilled immigrants.<BR/><BR/>Canada from afar looks good . If you look closer................<BR/><BR/>its just so sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1147230360952347992006-05-09T22:06:00.000-05:002006-05-09T22:06:00.000-05:00Anonymous, I think the testimonies in the websites...Anonymous, I think the testimonies in the websites that you mentioned don't represent the majority of the immigrants here in Canada. There are doctors and professionals from other countries that are able to continue their profession here in Canada. Not everybody can expect to pursue their same career in another land because every country has their own standards and requirements.<BR/><BR/>Work-in-progress, I was also discussing this with my family over the weekend. It crossed my mind that perhaps the boy was eating rice with sabaw. And the article also mentioned that the boy may have shown inappropriate behaviour. But still, he shouldn't have been humiliated like that. And perhaps it's the behaviour that should have been addressed and not his eating technique.nicehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561756178735116185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1147148796917837272006-05-08T23:26:00.000-05:002006-05-08T23:26:00.000-05:00HI Niceheart,I just heard today that the boy was v...HI Niceheart,<BR/>I just heard today that the boy was videotaped eating very sloppily, and that it has nothing to do with using a spoon. THAT SAID...my family discussed this and agreed that even if the boy DID eat like a pig, the school could have handled it better. Unfortunately, if this video is really out internationally, it results in humiliation for the boy, and he's only seven years old! I am wondering, what kind of educational institution is that Montreal school?work-in-progresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342743961346197880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1147099528846546932006-05-08T09:45:00.000-05:002006-05-08T09:45:00.000-05:00TK and Niceheart ,You perceive Canada is polite an...TK and Niceheart ,<BR/><BR/>You perceive Canada is polite and better than the US, think again.<BR/><BR/>For better understanding, try these<BR/>websites :<BR/><BR/>www.notcanada.com<BR/>www.canadaimmigrants.com/forum.asp<BR/>www.canada2usa.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1147069447732506032006-05-08T01:24:00.000-05:002006-05-08T01:24:00.000-05:00I still prefer to use spoon, especially when there...I still prefer to use spoon, especially when there's green peas in the menu....they're unmanageable with fork.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1147060373582086492006-05-07T22:52:00.000-05:002006-05-07T22:52:00.000-05:00BW, ignorance, yes. But that monitor should have ...BW, ignorance, yes. But that monitor should have been sensitive especially to a child.<BR/><BR/>TK, this is the only case I know of. Canadians are pretty much polite and acceptable of other cultures.nicehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561756178735116185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146999523152165082006-05-07T05:58:00.000-05:002006-05-07T05:58:00.000-05:00Despite of this isolated incident, Canada is still...Despite of this isolated incident, Canada is still perceived as more tolerant than the US. It's just one case. right?TKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07034257291191652363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146804218439790792006-05-04T23:43:00.000-05:002006-05-04T23:43:00.000-05:00It is more of ignorance than anything else. If thi...It is more of ignorance than anything else. If this monitor sees someone eating hamburger with a knife and fork she would probably say - use your damn hands!<BR/>Well, I heard it is customary for Brits to eat the burger with knife and fork! It's more cultural than anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146629585045154462006-05-02T23:13:00.000-05:002006-05-02T23:13:00.000-05:00Phil, I understand how this can be a valuable expe...Phil, I understand how this can be a valuable experience for a child despite it's nastiness. I've had pretty bad experiences myself that made me a stronger person. But the child is only 7 years old. And the bullies are a teacher and a principal. I can't blame the mother for filing a formal complaint.<BR/><BR/>Watson, I agree. People shouldn't demean or judge others just because they are of different cultural background.nicehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561756178735116185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146588009427775862006-05-02T11:40:00.000-05:002006-05-02T11:40:00.000-05:00Hello niceheart. Looks like we got hold of the sa...Hello niceheart. Looks like we got hold of the same terrible news. This said, let us not generalize all Canadians as such. I just hope these people responsible for these demeaning acts learn first about others' customs before judging. Yes, they need schooling too. O punishment kaya? heheheNick Ballesteroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851406139825729546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146574517012056222006-05-02T07:55:00.000-05:002006-05-02T07:55:00.000-05:00Then again, being exposed to human meaness and int...Then again, being exposed to human meaness and intolerance can also be a valuable experience for a child. People can be downright nasty. I've lived in lots of countries and some folks have been sweet, and others cruel. It's all a part of the human experience. I don't get too worked up over silly stuff like this. People are capable of a LOT worse than lunchroom bullying. Litigation? Give me a break. That sounds American to the extreme!PhilippinesPhilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921214743105919057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146544052774093122006-05-01T23:27:00.000-05:002006-05-01T23:27:00.000-05:00Mmy-lei, thanks for the visit and that info about ...Mmy-lei, thanks for the visit and that info about Thailand. Now, we know that using the spoon and fork is not unique to Filipinos. <BR/><BR/>Bing, racial discrimination is really ugly. Nobody should consider themselves superior than others.<BR/><BR/>DR and Ange, that's interesting what you said about being treated better when mistaken for a Japanese. Hmm.nicehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561756178735116185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146543425281762632006-05-01T23:17:00.000-05:002006-05-01T23:17:00.000-05:00Well, it occured in Montreal right? People there a...Well, it occured in Montreal right? People there are probably not as exposed to diversity compared to other parts of Canada. <BR/><BR/>Where we are, Caucasians are often seen eating at Asian restaurants using chopsticks.<BR/><BR/>I agree with Domestic Rat that I get better treatment when mistaken to be a Japanese.Angehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09317279720903400398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146543080424304232006-05-01T23:11:00.000-05:002006-05-01T23:11:00.000-05:00Hmm.. I'm shocked to read about this. It's not onl...Hmm.. I'm shocked to read about this. It's not only the Filippino way of eating but rather for most Asians! <BR/><BR/>Talk about discrimination. I get better treatment when ppl think I'm a Japanese, all thanks to my fair skin but not when they think I'm from China.domestic rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02920098462210519846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146464530110232672006-05-01T01:22:00.000-05:002006-05-01T01:22:00.000-05:00for me, it is plain arrogance. there are certain ...for me, it is plain arrogance. there are certain parts of the world who treat Asians and colored people as inferior, and anything that is connected to them is inferior. the way the boy ate is probably different from the way they use eating utensils. i dont see any reason of violation. what gave the right to punish the boy because of his eating habits. utterly disgusting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146462248028372682006-05-01T00:44:00.000-05:002006-05-01T00:44:00.000-05:00Hi, first time here.I read this issue from forward...Hi, first time here.<BR/><BR/>I read this issue from forwarded email. Let's just pray that the mother will get justice on this issue and the Montreal School should be awaken from their deep coma.<BR/><BR/>I worked in Thailand for a year and they too, uses spoon and fork in their meals. Chopsticks are used for certain meals.Mmy-Leihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14493461180937972819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146456470493421762006-04-30T23:07:00.000-05:002006-04-30T23:07:00.000-05:00Hi Jayred and Eric. I don't want to be judgmental...Hi Jayred and Eric. I don't want to be judgmental to and generalize people. But I was discussing this incident with my sister and this came up in our conversation. You see, Quebec (the province where Montreal is located) is mostly populated by French-Canadians. And there was a time when Quebec wanted to separate from Canada. They wanted to be a separate country. Arrogance?nicehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561756178735116185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146442647292270552006-04-30T19:17:00.000-05:002006-04-30T19:17:00.000-05:00Makes me wonder how come no disciplinary action (s...Makes me wonder how come no disciplinary action (such as forced sensitivity training) was ever taken against this particular school personnel. Is Montreal so permissive of such bigotry?Señor Enriquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15110290769417627313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146435445891751392006-04-30T17:17:00.000-05:002006-04-30T17:17:00.000-05:00Got to read the article last week through an e-gro...Got to read the article last week through an e-group message.<BR/><BR/>I think that was the height of arrogance and cultural insensitivity!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146425402118752322006-04-30T14:30:00.000-05:002006-04-30T14:30:00.000-05:00Abaniko, there are Chinese restaurants here in Can...Abaniko, there are Chinese restaurants here in Canada. I see white people who eat in Chinese restaurants. I just haven't noticed if they use chopsticks.<BR/><BR/>Ann, you raised a good question there. But you know what? I haven't seen any Pinoy yet who have eaten with their bare hands in public here. So you can tell that we still have delicadeza, right? We still do respect people who are not used to seeing people na kumakain ng nakakamay.<BR/><BR/>Sidney, you may be right. People who have never been out of their own town would have a hard time understanding other people's culture. But we live in cyberworld now where we can learn about different cultures on the internet or even TV.<BR/><BR/>I also wonder if eating with the spoon and fork is unique to Filipinos. I hope my other Asian readers can enlighten us on this. Calling on Ange, Hsin, Domestic Rat, Toe or anybody who have been to other Asian countries.<BR/><BR/>Major Tom, the mother did file a formal complaint with the local school board. Let's just hope that it will be dealt with.nicehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561756178735116185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146423410463025772006-04-30T13:56:00.000-05:002006-04-30T13:56:00.000-05:00Like you, I hope this case is just an isolated one...Like you, I hope this case is just an isolated one. You know, the parents of the Filipino kid could sue the school for damages. I guess civil laws in Canada are much the same as in America and the Philippines. This kind of thing should be dealth with by the law properly so that it won't happen again or as often. It is smack of harassment and discrimination, which I think is actionable for damages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146381188510994912006-04-30T02:13:00.000-05:002006-04-30T02:13:00.000-05:00I think this is typically the reaction of people w...I think this is typically the reaction of people who never went outside their own town, city or country. <BR/>But I admit that some of my friends back in Belgium wouldn't understand the concept of eating with a spoon ;-) <BR/>Eating with chopsticks is culturally better known than switching the knife for a spoon. To be honest I don't know if this is unique to the Philippines or if other Asian countries have the same custom.Sidneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02495108366627361182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146378443385713432006-04-30T01:27:00.000-05:002006-04-30T01:27:00.000-05:00What more if you eat with your bare hands? hehehe....What more if you eat with your bare hands? hehehe.. ano kaya punishments.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17733471738627122065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9746740.post-1146367376534103662006-04-29T22:22:00.000-05:002006-04-29T22:22:00.000-05:00I wonder if there are Chinese restaurants in Canad...I wonder if there are Chinese restaurants in Canada. So, Canadians don't eat in those restaurants because they're more different (hence, disgusting!) with their chopsticks, huh?Abanikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11875357364145384684noreply@blogger.com